January 28, 2026
Init wars heat up
Devuan – Debian Without Systemd
Debian fork goes systemd-free; fans rejoice, skeptics spar
TLDR: Devuan’s new Excalibur release skips systemd, doubling down on “init freedom” and choice in how your computer starts. Comments split between cheers for alternatives, jokes about “car without engine,” and one big question: is freedom real if systemd isn’t invited?
The anti‑systemd crowd just found a new rally point: Devuan’s latest release, Excalibur 6, keeps the promise of no systemd, and the comments read like a victory parade with a few hecklers on the route. Long‑time users cheered that Devuan helps keep alternatives alive, with one fan praising how “all such distros have benefited” from Devuan’s work. New faces chimed in too—“never used this one but glad to see systemd free stuff”—while nostalgic vets said Devuan “matches the Linux I learned,” a nod to the old-school way computers start up their services.
But then came the philosophical smackdown. One commenter asked if skipping systemd clashes with “init freedom”—the idea that you can pick your startup manager. Cue debate: is freedom about having every option, or about protecting space for alternatives so they don’t get swallowed? Meanwhile, tech jokers dropped memes like “Tricycle – Car Without Engine,” poking fun at calling a Debian fork without systemd a car without an engine. Another hot take claimed systemd is actually too conservative and should go harder, name‑dropping “binder,” an Android tech for app messaging—translation: the systemd wars aren’t just about less integration; some want more. Devuan also follows Debian’s merged /usr layout to focus resources on its anti‑systemd mission, and the crowd, as usual, is split: choice vs consistency, nostalgia vs future‑proofing. Drama level: spicy.
Key Points
- •Devuan GNU+Linux is a free software, Debian-based fork that excludes systemd to promote Init Freedom.
- •Excalibur 6 is the current stable release; Daedalus 5.0 is oldstable and Chimaera 4.0 is oldoldstable.
- •Excalibur can be installed by upgrading from Devuan Daedalus or migrating from Debian Trixie; skipping releases is not supported.
- •Devuan follows Debian’s merged /usr (usrmerge) implementation to focus resources on its systemd-related mission.
- •Downloads are available via http/https/ftp/rsync ISO mirrors and through torrent and magnet links.