The Five Levels: From Spicy Autocomplete to the Software Factory

From AI interns to dark factories — fans cheer, veterans yell “vaporware”

TLDR: A new piece claims coding is racing toward “dark factories” that auto-build software from specs. Commenters erupted: some say these robot coders produce junk and Levels 4–5 are vaporware, while an insider says teams really skip code review and lean hard on testing, making the debate impossible to ignore.

A viral post mapped coding to car automation levels—from spicy autocomplete to a “dark software factory” that turns specs into apps like a robot assembly line. And the comments? Pure chaos. Veteran devs stormed in with receipts: ekidd says the near-dark-factory software he’s actually run is “completely shit”, comparing it to the crash-happy bad old days of Windows 98. Others mocked Level 5 as a fantasy black box where your code eats itself and no one’s brave enough to look inside.

The biggest fight: is the robotaxi future real or just staged demos? pphysch blasted Levels 4–5 as “essentially vaporware”, only working in tightly controlled setups with massive budgets. Meanwhile, simonw dropped insider tea: some teams really are going “lights out”—“Nobody reviews AI-produced code, ever”—and they pour all their effort into testing, simulators, and proof-of-life demos. Cue the crowd screaming “proof first, trust later.”

There was shade, too. saulpw roasted the “10 projects in a month” brag—“literally no one is going to use it”—calling it hustle porn for GitHub stars. And badgersnake eye-rolled: “These hype articles are getting very boring.” Meme of the day: from Volvo-to-robotaxi, you don’t become a coding wizard—you become a PM. Claude Code even got namechecked as the Level 4 sidekick, while Waymo and FANUC’s lights‑out factory set the vibe. Buckle up: the community is split between “future is here” and “future is theater.”

Key Points

  • The article defines five levels of AI automation in coding, modeled after NHTSA’s driving automation levels.
  • Level 0–2 progress from manual coding to pairing with AI-native tools, with increasing offloading of routine tasks.
  • Level 3 makes the developer a human-in-the-loop manager reviewing extensive AI-generated code and diffs.
  • Level 4 shifts the developer to a product/PM role, writing specs and using tools like Claude Code to drive autonomous builds and tests.
  • Level 5 describes a 'dark software factory' that turns specifications into software with minimal human involvement.

Hottest takes

“a lot of that software is completely shit.” — ekidd
“level 4-5 are essentially vaporware” — pphysch
“Nobody reviews AI-produced code, ever” — simonw
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