Don't discount American democracy's resilience

Optimists cheer a comeback; doomers cry “same bird” and warn of rigged midterms

TLDR: Nate Silver argues U.S. democracy still pushes back, pointing to Minneapolis protests and the demotion of a hardline ICE official. Comments explode into a split: optimists praise resilience while doomers warn of oligarch control and midterm meddling, with the “same bird” meme fueling a loud, anxious debate about power and trust.

Nate Silver says don’t count America out just yet. His case? Minneapolis: after a chilling Border Patrol pep talk urging agents to “arrest as many people who touch you” video, public backlash surged, the normies sided with protesters link, and the White House blinked—ICE’s Greg Bovino was demoted. Silver’s vibe: democracy can still play defense.

The comments? A cage match. One camp is full doom: “Nothing is now as it was before,” warns Frank, arguing today has no parallels. Another crowd calls Congress “feckless,” blames money-in-politics, and drops the line that became the thread’s meme: “left wing and right wing are the same bird”—cue bird emojis everywhere. A worried middle says the public appetite for pushback may fade if the government flexes its muscle, praying power gets voted out in the midterms, not fought in the streets. Then the skeptics arrive, side-eyeing Silver’s “longest-standing democracy” flex as “naive metrics” and asking if labels mean anything when trust is cratering. And the paranoids? They’re convinced the administration is already “moving pieces” to contest or capture the midterms.

Silver’s optimism meets the internet’s anxiety, and the result is pure comment-section theater: hope vs. doom, data vs. vibes, resilience vs. resignation.

Key Points

  • Nate Silver argues that pessimism about U.S. democracy underrates its resilience and capacity to defend itself.
  • He cites a lack of clear historical precedent and America’s exceptional context, cautioning against constant crisis framing.
  • A Minneapolis incident involving a video of former Border Patrol chief Greg Bovino urging aggressive ICE arrests is presented as authoritarian.
  • Public pushback favored protestors, and the White House subsequently demoted Bovino.
  • Silver points to both organized resistance and Trump’s broader unpopularity as evidence of democratic counterweights.

Hottest takes

"Nothing is now as it was before" — FrankWilhoit
"they are the same bird" — therealwhytry
"moving pieces into place to capture or contest the midterm elections" — DustinEchoes
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