How to train your program verifier

AI-made Python bug catcher nails 4 real flaws; devs cheer, purists snark

TLDR: Researchers launched an AI-guided Python verifier that proved most of the popular Requests library safe and flagged four real bugs. Commenters split between hype for fewer 3AM crashes and snark about grandiose math claims, debating whether trusting AI to build and check the checker is genius or risky.

The research duo behind the a3 framework dropped a spicy bomb: an auto‑generated verifier for Python, a3‑python, that scanned the mega‑popular requests library (183 functions), proved 179 “safe,” and found four real bugs. Cue the comment section turning into an arena. Fans celebrated that a bot finally caught those 3AM crash gremlins—like a string split that blows up without a “/” and a pickle‑unpickling “None” mishap—while skeptics rolled their eyes at the grandiose setup: name‑dropping Fields Medal legend Voevodsky and touting “geometry‑of‑verification.” One top reply called it “Z3 meets ChatGPT with a hero cape”, another called it “a glorified linter in fancy math cosplay.”

Python folks were split. Some shouted “Finally, a babysitter for dynamic chaos,” others warned it’s the fox verifying the henhouse—AI helping build the verifier that checks code AI could write. Mathematicians nitpicked the Hilbert/“Stellensatz” flex, joking “If your theorem hunt ends in catching split('/') bugs, touch grass.” SREs posted pager memes and begged for this on production code, while maintainers fretted about bot‑generated issue spam. The spiciest hot take: measuring “distance from safety” is either genius or pure vibes. Meanwhile, the rest of us hit a3‑python, whisper “please find my bugs,” and hope it doesn’t find us.

Key Points

  • The a3 framework was created to auto-generate Advanced Automated Analysis engines, including the a3-python verifier.
  • a3-python targets Python, combining AI-driven synthesis with formal methods to address verification in a complex mainstream language.
  • On five core files of the Requests package (183 functions), A3 proved 179 potential bug instances safe via barrier certificates; four real bugs remained.
  • Development leveraged AI to (re)discover foundations (Hilbert’s Stellensatz), integrate advances in symbolic model checking, and reason about PyTorch.
  • A3 is iteratively refined through extensive testing; it detects predefined bug categories and can prove assertions, with quantitative model checking concepts explored.

Hottest takes

“If you’re invoking Voevodsky to catch split(‘/’) bugs, maybe take a walk” — mathsnob42
“Z3 meets ChatGPT with a hero cape; ship it before my pager screams” — ops_at_3am
“AI building the verifier that judges AI code? Fox, meet henhouse” — rustacean77
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