The United States needs fewer bus stops

Speed vs Convenience: Reddit erupts over cutting bus stops

TLDR: Agencies can speed buses cheaply by spacing stops farther apart, a fix that claims seconds saved per stop and potentially higher ridership. Commenters clash over speed vs convenience, equity for older and disabled riders, and whether smarter vans or more frequent service would help more.

A new report says the quickest, cheapest way to fix America’s sluggish buses isn’t fancy rail—it’s fewer bus stops. By spacing stops farther apart (closer to Europe’s ~1,300 feet) agencies can save 12–24 seconds per removed stop and speed up buses that creep at 8 mph. The crowd went full popcorn mode: “fewer stops, faster service” has fans, but skeptics note traffic lights still trap buses, making the gains feel tiny. Equity alarms rang too—what about older and disabled riders who can’t walk farther? And yes, Thatcher’s spicy old bus quote made a cameo, because this is the internet.

Then the takes got hotter. One commenter declared, “The United States does not need buses,” pitching smart vans over city buses and accusing transit of being a jobs program. Another called for rules that enable broad gains even if there are specific losers, basically: speed up service without ignoring the folks who rely on close stops. Meanwhile, everyday riders brought the vibe check: they hate constant stopping, love being near a stop, and swear frequency beats speed—give us more buses, not just fewer stops. Compromise talk surged: limited/skip-stop routes for speed lovers, all-stops service for convenience. Verdict? The internet wants faster buses, but not at the cost of Grandma’s ankles—and the stop war is just getting started.

Key Points

  • Bus stop balancing proposes increasing stop spacing from 700–800 feet to around 1,300 feet, aligning with Western European practices.
  • U.S. bus stops are closer together than in Europe: mean spacing ~313 m, with older cities like Chicago (223 m), Philadelphia (214 m), and San Francisco (248 m).
  • Buses in New York City and San Francisco average about 8 mph; frequent stops contribute significantly to slow service.
  • An extra 500 feet of walking typically adds 1.5–2.5 minutes; buses spend about 20% of their time stopping and starting.
  • Stop balancing is fast, low-cost, and can be implemented by transit agencies via sign removal and schedule updates to improve reliability and service with existing resources.

Hottest takes

"United states does not need buses !" — aiauthoritydev
"more frequency beats speed though" — forthwall
"broad benefit actions that nonetheless have specific losers." — renewiltord
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