Cops Used Flock to Track a Man Across State Lines for a Pretextual Weed Search

Tracked for a legal weed trip, busted back home—and commenters are furious

TLDR: Wisconsin police used car-tracking cameras to show a man often drove to Michigan, where marijuana is legal, then searched him back in Wisconsin and got a weed conviction. Commenters were split between legal confusion and outright panic, saying this looks less like policing and more like everyday surveillance finding excuses to ruin lives.

The actual article is wild enough: police in Wisconsin reportedly used Flock, a camera system that logs where cars travel, to argue that a man who often drove to Michigan—where marijuana is legal—was probably bringing weed back into Wisconsin, where it isn’t. Officers tracked his car across state lines, pulled him over, and the case ended with a weed possession conviction. But in the comments, the real fireworks were about what this means for everyone else.

The biggest mood? Pure dread. One commenter basically said this is what mass surveillance always turns into: if authorities watch long enough, they’ll find something to use against you. That sparked the darkest reactions, with people painting a grim chain reaction of arrests leading to lost jobs, towed cars, and lives blown up even if the case falls apart later. Another commenter dropped a blunt little "pre-crime" reference, which is internet shorthand for: Congrats, we’re living in the sci-fi dystopia now.

There was also a mini-comment-thread mystery: if the man was already wanted on other charges, why did police need a weed-search pretext at all? That question gave the whole story an extra layer of suspicion. And then came the chaos goblin energy: one user gleefully pointed out that Flock has had a terrible week in the headlines, including reports of police cameras being cut down and stories about departments allegedly hiding their use of the system. Finally, because no comment section can resist a political detour, someone tossed in a hot take that Trump should just legalize weed for popularity points. Surveillance panic, legal confusion, and meme-level dystopia jokes? The community turned this one into a full-on popcorn thread.

Key Points

  • A Wisconsin criminal complaint says police used Flock camera data to track Edward Abrams-Phillips’ travel from Wisconsin to Michigan and back.
  • Police cited Abrams-Phillips’ repeated trips to Michigan, where marijuana is legal, as part of probable cause to search his car for marijuana.
  • The complaint says officers tracked the vehicle through multiple Flock detections over the course of the day before coordinating a stop on its return to Wisconsin.
  • Abrams-Phillips was also wanted for bail jumping on domestic violence charges, but the article says that charge was dismissed.
  • According to court records cited by the article, Abrams-Phillips was ultimately found guilty only of marijuana possession.

Hottest takes

"With enough time, they'll find some pretext to bring you in" — MSFT_Edging
"Also see: Pre-crime" — CharlesW
"why do they need a pretext for the stop?" — rileymat2
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