DHS Says DHS-Certified Real IDs Too Unreliable to Confirm U.S. Citizenship

20-year “REAL ID” project flops; citizens cuffed; commenters call it gaslighting

TLDR: DHS told a court that REAL ID cards aren’t reliable for proving citizenship, even as a U.S. citizen was detained twice during raids. Commenters blast the move as rights abuse and “gaslighting,” while others mock the 20-year ID project and debate whether the article’s framing misses the real civil liberties issue.

DHS just told a court that the government’s own REAL ID—the fancy driver’s license you get after showing piles of paperwork—is “unreliable” for proving U.S. citizenship. Cue an internet meltdown. The spark: an Alabama construction worker, a U.S. citizen, was detained twice during immigration raids even after officers pulled his REAL ID from his pocket. The agency’s explanation? States can issue REAL IDs to non‑citizens, so the card isn’t proof of citizenship. The community’s vibe: You’ve got to be kidding. One camp sees straight-up rights violations, not a tech fail. As one commenter put it, DHS is “tripping over itself to justify unlawful detention,” while another dropped a chef’s-kiss line about laws protecting “in‑groups” but not binding them. Others rolled their eyes: “Is anyone surprised?” Meanwhile, meta-drama hit when a reader misread “DHS” as “DHH” (the tech founder), spawning jokes about who’s really in charge of IDs. And yes, there’s a backlash to the article’s framing too—some say blaming the card is a convenient excuse for detaining people who “look Mexican.” The result: a thread that’s half civil liberties alarm bell, half comedy roast, with the bigger question hanging over it all—if REAL ID isn’t real enough, what is? Read the filing here.

Key Points

  • A DHS December 11 court filing states REAL ID can be unreliable for confirming U.S. citizenship.
  • The filing relates to a civil rights lawsuit filed in October by the Institute for Justice on behalf of Leo Garcia Venegas.
  • Venegas, a U.S. citizen, was detained twice during immigration raids at Alabama construction sites despite having an Alabama-issued REAL ID.
  • Officers allegedly entered private sites without warrants, detained workers based on apparent ethnicity, and claimed Venegas’ REAL ID could be fake.
  • DHS cites varying state compliance laws and issuance of REAL IDs to noncitizens as reasons for requiring further verification of citizenship.

Hottest takes

“DHS tripping over itself to justify unlawful detention” — johnbender
“There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind” — V__
“Reads less like a critique and more like a convenient justification” — tyleo
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